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The stock market is not the economy. All you are ultimately advocating for is keeping the exiting corrupt corporate leadership in charge and preventing market forces from replacing them with ethical leaders.


This was all pretty much guaranteed to happen eventually after the UK handed over Hong Kong to the PRC in 1997.


The west just lack China's attention span for stuff like this. China was perfectly willing to wait 20 years to make the move and waited for the perfect time when both the US and the UK are in utter disarray.


What would you have the us do about this? We are already in a confusing trade war with China. Because of it being a part of china I don't think the west is ready to go to war with China over it.

It's horrible, it's what China will do to anyone they get power over. I want everyone to leave there, I am terrified for all those brave young people. Their only hope is to leave.


It's not a loss to the world. It is a loss to China, and surely it is a loss to HK people but who are Chinese.


You're right. It's not a loss to the world. The world is filled up with kleptocracies, dictatorships(which China is) or just about anything in-between.

It is however a loss to the free democratic world.


I don’t really think there’s such a thing as the free democratic world nowadays.


Keep telling yourself that. You'll know the difference if or when you live under another system :)


I lived under another system, that’s why I’m saying that.


Vote with your checkbook (everyone not just the US)


>legally independent city-states

How about we just pay our workers fair wages instead of scheming up ways to put as much power as possible in the hands of oligarchs.


The treatment of Bernie Sanders has been a wake up call to young liberals that the corporate political/media complex is just as antithetical to liberalism and democracy as the most crazed trump supporter and 100 times more effective.


Looks like depleted uranium bullets probably have similar to effects to lead bullets.

https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2016/09/29/the-toxicit...


Your link does not support what you are saying. The linked article says that: (i) there aren't enough studies for the toxicity of depleted uranium (ii) we know that uranium is chemically somewhat similar to lead (iii) there are a lot of studies about the toxicity of lead, so (iv) because of (i)-(iii) for the time being it and for modelling purposes it may be useful to assume that depleted uranium has similar toxic effects to lead.

In other words, the article admits that the author does not really know about the toxicity effects of DE and uses lead only as a best guess.

Furthermore, the article clearly distinguishes between the toxic effects and radioactive effects. Depleted uranium is less radioactive than the usual uranium, but it is still plenty radioactive. And the effects of radioactivity are pretty bad when you are breathing the stuff in.


when you say "lead bullets" do you mean gun bullets, or armor piercing bullets / projectiles? a normal bullet does not vaporize and contaminate the whole area in the same way vaporizing projectiles do...


Depleted Uranium is not designed to vaporize. It has a boiling point (3818°C) more than twice that of lead (1740°C). It's atomic mass of 238 is considerably higher than Lead's 207.5. It packs quite the punch when put into a slug, but does not reach temperatures where it could vaporize. Certainly particulate matter would be ejected from the impact, though as with most slugs.

That said, what was done here is despicable and it is clear evidence of a war crime.


The DU projectiles are intended to fragment in ways that lead does not, as on impact parts of the projectile shear away and it "self-sharpens" when penetrating.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4004-safe-alternative...

The energy involved is also more than sufficient to hit that temperature. When a high-velocity shell impacts something it will deform and convert a lot of the kinetic energy to thermal.

The whole thing doesn't melt, but parts of it do, and the vehicle it hits gets absolutely thrashed.

These things cut through pretty much any armor like it's not even there. During the Iraq war they'd even hit tanks by firing through the tops of sand dunes, aiming using thermal imaging.


> It's atomic mass of 238 is considerably higher than Lead's 207.5.

Atomic mass has little to do with an element's boiling point.


But it has to do why it packs quite a punch. I agree it's worded awkwardly.


>Depleted Uranium is not designed to vaporize.

when an uranium projectile hits the armor, some of the uranium burns into uranium oxide, a dust of which gets dispersed all around. Big problem in Serbia too - in 1999 NATO used 30K+ units of uranium ammunition there.


I suppose whatever metal is used in a cumulative charge, a significant amount of it gets dispersed far and wide while a jet of the molten metal is piercing several inches of armor.

Copper, lead, whatever else, should contaminate all around as fine dust.


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