If you make a very rough estimate of the emotional maturity of a person that abuses a neighbor for not “buying American”, I think the answer become reasonably clear

Oh damn, I love this one. I’ve been vibe coding a ‘public benefit’ app on the side that has a few hundred users but never thought of doing something for an actual non-profit.

Care to elaborate on your process? Curious how you approach them and come up with the best path forward with limited time (assuming you have a full time job as well on the side). Thanks!

I would recommend finding a local non-profit you're interested in helping, and start volunteering. Don't go in guns blazing "I'm here from Hackernews to save you" but get to know the people and what they do, and then how to help will become apparent.

By local I would recommend truly local and not a "division" of a national non-profit; those are an entirely different beast.

Big fan of the accountability phase, or the “find out” phase:

Engage in high-risk, uncalculated actions and be prepared to face the inevitable, data-driven consequences.

> Fuck around, find out.

< High-risk experimentation often leads to significant, data-driven insights.

Yeah, someone remind me when did the arguably most concise and best definition of what science is get politicized?

That was my main takeaway as well. How do you do this without any shame? My man is emitting an amount of CO2 on par with an small African country

Most people don't spend a lot of time wistfully considering their CO2 usage, myself included. The religious zeal by which people feel the need to tell me about the ever-warming planet is honestly more off-putting than most actual religions.

Of the very few "f*cks" I can give in my life, I prefer to spend mine as I choose rather than being scolded for not giving mine to the pressing issues that others deem important.

The thing is that everyone alive today and in the future is footing the bill for that indifference. It's nice that you don't care, but it's not something I'd brag about.

I too don't want to be a martyr hermit who don't travel and consume just to cur my CO2 emissions in half, while someone else generates 10x of that living a full life. That's just dumb, and I consider this whole movement rich people telling poor people that they should be considerate and sacrifice themselves.

If you truly care about the planet, don't have children.

It's an "all hands on deck" situation, yet everyone seems to think that someone else has to do something. You don't need to be a martyr, just to make an effort.

At the very least don't brag about not giving a crap.

I don't give a crap, in the most boastful way possible. Sorry if my zealotry isn't your zealotry.

Thank you for destroying the Earth!

Thank God I'm a single human and don't have nearly that much influence over the Earth.

"No individual rain drop ever considers itself responsible for the flood."

> If you truly care about the planet, don't have children.

That's a fallacy; people care about the planet precisely because of children. I don't care about the planet for its own sake; I care because of the humans who inhabit it and their future lives.

Also, humanity spent 100,000 years without flying around the globe, and I doubt they were all living hermit martyr lives.

Is the OP flying a private jet or something? Unless he is, it's a useless metric. The people flying private are responsible for a 1000x a regular persons emissions. It's offensive to suggest regular salaried people are supposed to be "doing something" in this CO2 effort.

It's true that a single private jet is causing tons of CO2 emissions. But in the end, all consumers control the market. You can jump one link further in the chain to regions with much lower emissions. Somalia/Congo emit over 200x less CO2 per capita in comparison to the US. Do you think that's fair for them if the "regular salaried people" don't care? If responsibility always gets dismissed by pointing to someone emitting more, nothing changes.

I don't feel it's properly engaging in good faith to say that I don't care. I don't specifically care, in the "feeling shame" sense that the GP had mentioned. As I pointed out, we all have a limited number of things we can realistically care about.

The fact that I happen to care about other things more than this specific flavor of global catastrophe is morally OK.

The way I see it, "from each according to their ability" is the right approach here. If you can afford 30% less flying, red meat etc, then it's your duty to do it. You don't need to make your cat go vegan; just... do what you can, even if imperfectly.

Shame is not necessary, but callous indifference is not acceptable. There is a middle ground where you treat it like a habit to improve, like a step count.

And this is it. This is why we are where we are today. That it is seen as taking a religious zeal to realize how flying very frequently is disastrous for the climate. That's our bar and what we have to work with. Yes, we are properly fucked.

I refuse to worsen my life for an absolutely minuscule abstract benefit to someone, eventually, maybe. I am going to continue eating meat and flying when I want to, and I don't feel the least bit bad about it. It's unfortunate that climate change is happening, but my personal actions are not meaningfully contributing. My choices do not have cascading effects on others; whatever I do, the climate will change in the same manner as it otherwise would have. In that light, I am not going to reduce my QOL just to feel self righteous for no actual benefit to anyone.

You may wonder how this is consistent with my propensity to recycle and follow traffic laws and not do crimes and other socially beneficial minor things to which a comparison could be made to CO2 output: because those all have a greater benefit:cost ratio than flying and eating meat, by far. I am including the benefits of living in a high-trust society in that analysis.

"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."

Instead we're razing the forests and bragging about our indifference.

Me planting a tree results in a tree existing for progeny. Me skipping a flight results in absolutely no difference for progeny. I pick my battles. I also plant a lot of trees, literally.

I would totally do this without any shame if I had the need/desire. CO2 isn't going to be solved by well intentioned individuals making absolutely no impact. It will be a generic solution that solves it for everyone, or it won't be solved at all.

I'm also not going to take shorter showers when people are farming in a desert and shipping the crops to China.

You might think this makes me a terrible person. That's probably good. Because it will help people understand what we're up against and what needs to happen to actually solve the problem.

"Take less flights" isn't the solution.

The very basic (but incorrect) assumption that the “grind never stops” people rely on is

more hours == more productivity

It’s not. If you’re sleep deprived you’ll produce shit, which you’ll probably have to redo later. Sleep properly, produce more in less hours.

But hey, at least your colleagues think you’re busy because you’re last to leave redoing your shitty work!

Edit: read The Brain at Rest by Jebelli, don’t work yourself to death

Only one I have issues with is Ticketmaster, other than that I forget that it’s even on all the time

I can’t access Reddit on Mullvad via Tailscale

There are working end-points and they tend to be stable. If you find a Mullvad server which works with Reddit, you can configure a socks5 proxy for a Firefox container assigned to Reddit (or any domain). This way, Reddit will always use the connection of the working route and your general internet experience isn't affected otherwise. Eg. you can still switch around connections to find a working one for Youtube... Don't forget about this setting, since sometimes a Mullvad server is down temporarily and the container's assigned domains won't resolve (usually enough to count up/down the Mullvad proxy id). This will also prevent you from accessing Reddit without a Mullvad VPN connection.

Socks5 proxy addresses can be found here: https://mullvad.net/en/servers

You need to prefix them with 'socks://'.

This is a good shout. Thanks!

How much free time do you think the average person has to learn and set all this up?

“You’re giving these companies your data and then dare to be angry when you lose it? Just get a degree in computer science and host it yourself!!1! I am very smart”

I think you’re taking the message the wrong way.

Those are the steps the commenter suggests you take to use these services safely.

It’s not that these steps are reasonable.

So if they aren’t reasonable what’s the point of typing them out in a list exhorting others to implement them?

Because showing that the mitigation is unreasonable highlights how unreasonable the problem is.

The original commenter said he always suggests people do these things.

Yes, this is what they think is required to be safe. It’s up to you what you do. But what’s better having information or not having information?

At the very least “civilians” need to be informed, and warned.

Yours is an absurd response. Rage-bait? Still, I will bite - kind of.

1. You don’t need too much time to set this up.

2. All this doesn’t have to be in one sitting - with meds and coffee that keeps you awake through the sleeping hours

3. In fact it’s better if you do this over the weeks, months, years. For me it took years and I am still kind of doing it. Once in a while, here and there.

4. I am not very smart. If I was I’d have just ignored your comment.

Nobody believes this is right.

The question is: will you roll over and die without a fight for your rights?

At least you have time you are spending on HN that could be devoted to learning to fight. The fewer people that fight, the faster your rights disappear.

Yeah now we know why it’s on the front page not even 10 minutes after posting…

Keep them?? But how else would you keep devs working hard if there are no mass layoffs to be afraid of all the time??

Get them working on interesting projects building things customers/users/peers will value.

What are you, some kinda communist?

> building things customers/users/peers will value.

AI. Customers want AI, users want AI, peers want AI. If anyone says otherwise, they’re a Luddite and possibly a dangerous political radical.

I'm no longer at MSFT, but according to the people that are, the leadership is straight up saying that anyone who doesn't like AI coding has no place in the company now.

Unfortunely, they are making people like myself, that in general tend to have comments more pro-Windows, starting to consider the alternatives yet again.

Even .NET and C++ tooling getting spoiled with AI no matter what, see latest set of DevBlog announcements.

What it the dystopian fuck is this headline