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I used to think this was the case as well, even though I suffered through the reality: computing was always a rich person's game. Even more so in the early days. Even a C64 was an upper middle class toy. Cosplaying counter cultural (really well) doesn't change the fact that if you cold afford to build the foundation of the computer industry, you were at least very aligned with capital. Now that alignment has been exposed, highlighted and scaled to global proportions.


My eyes were opened when I started realizing the Wikipedia pages of luminaries in the software field had blue links to their famous parents and those parents also had blue links to _their_ famous parents

Hell I’m guilty of some myself. I was surprised early in my career when I found out that most of my peers did not have a computer and internet access as children in the early 90s


Who?

I checked Ritchie, Thompson, McCarthy, Sussman, Wirth… none had blue name parents.


Linus Torvalds? Maybe I’m the wrong age but that was one of the bigger names when I was starting my tech career

Edit: you’ve got luminaries like Stallman too, who didn’t have the rich family but did get the university they worked at to cover their living expenses. An uncomfortable amount of leaders in the Free Software and Open Source communities openly advocate for people to give away their time and effort for free, while living on the largesse of others


This is some low level criticism. Just because some one has successful parents it takes anything away from their accomplishments? I mean, it's always nice to root for the underdogs, I do too, but this Zeitgeist has just become childish.


I wasn’t diminishing or taking away their accomplishment's, their background doesn’t change what they did or made.

What I was critiquing was the fact that a seemingly inordinate number of people who advocate that your work in software should be free for anyone else to take without payment, also happen to not ever need to consider how they put food on the table due to wealth they inherited or were given due to their celebrity status


I had no idea about Linus’s pedigree. Thanks!


No problem, it was an interesting history to read


It was a bad bill but your gross nationalism is even worse. 1 step forward, 10 steps back.


> gross nationalism

How on earth did you get that from the original posters comment?


“Win for America” is gross nationalism. Zero sum thinking with combative implications.


It's a win for American industry, same as a politician would say when a new factory opens or something. I don't know a less offensive way to put it.

He didn't remotely say the combative stuff I would say, that it is partially a zero-sum game where we should stay ahead of the curve.


I think tying nationalism to AI harms us all.


No I do not share values with the US government, which largely represents AIPAC’s interests and not my own.


No one wants to holiday in an apartheid state. The younger generations have access to actual footage on the ground in Palestine, they will never support Israel.


Israelis on TikTok and Israeli leadership make the best case against Zionism. They’re openly racist and genocidal. As someone who’s not religious it’s clear the Palestinians have the moral high ground by a long shot.


Palestinians have higher moral ground by raping innocent teenagers and then shooting them in the head?

Yeah, some moral high ground. Your comment tells more about you than about this conflict.


Palestinians have the moral high ground because it was their land that was invaded in 1948 and they been oppressed by Israel ever since. The “rapes” have been discredited over and over. One of the many things Israel does that is very obvious to outside observers is to lie constantly in the most obvious of fashions.


Opinion has continually shifted away from Israel since Oct 7th according to polls:

https://archive.is/6b4lS (Washington Post article)

What’s not measured is how strongly people under the age of 45 feel about Israel. I know my social group went from abstract Palestinian support to extreme Palestinian support as they’ve been radicalized by Israel’s actions since Oct 7th.


Yep, pure Israeli propaganda. This is a textbook genocide. Israel is killing Palestinians at a faster pace than Hitler killed civilians during WWII.


Why would you question that this one particular building out of the thousands that Israel has and is bombing, wasn’t also bombed by Israel?

Aside, the doctors at the hospital said Israel bombed them, they are not Hamas.


> Aside, the doctors at the hospital said Israel bombed them, they are not Hamas.

How on earth would they know who bombed them?


Maybe it was the same people that bombed the rest of the city? The parent said Hamas made the claim, but it was doctors at the hospital.


I didn't see any news articles referencing the doctors at the hospital - but I did see articles using the Gaza Health Ministry. Perhaps that's what you mean? If so, the Gaza Health Ministry is Hamas. I stand to be corrected as I obviously haven't read all articles.

Nonetheless I don't see how doctors at the hospital would know who bombed the hospital


Yep, maybe it was the same. And maybe it wasn't. I'm don't know how doctors at a hospital would be able to determine that. I'm pretty sure it's not one of the things they're taught in medical school.


And if you're in a zone where munitions are landing all around you, and almost all of them are from a certain source, you're going to assume the next one is from the same source.


Many Hamas rockets fall in Gaza killing Palestinians. There's something like a 30% failure rate.


Yeah, that seems like a reasonable assumption, but I still wouldn't cite them on it as if they had any special insight into the source of the rocket.


No you should not. Sadly this is hard to do because many VCs will reach out to you and hide their conflicts, just to pump you for info for their portfolio company. This is very common practice.

They may also “launder” the spying through a friend who’s not directly invested (but is directly spying on you).


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