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So we just trust what AI says it does. What could go wrong, lol


You still need to do the decision making, design, architecture when using AI. AI is still more like a enthusiastic junior engineer. It will mindless start trying to solve a problem, copy in bad code, often makes mistakes, etc. You're still responsible for the hard problems and finding the issues. You are more of an senior/lead engineer who is doing as much thinking but not that much of the actual typing.

The question in my mind is if you need to become less productive to keep your thinking skills sharp. Do we need to separate the work from the "gym". We have times when we are using AI heavily to be as productive as possible. Then we have other times where we don't use it all to keep us sharp.

Is this necessary or are we being old fashion? I lean more towards this being necessary but if I grew up with AI, I might look at not using it as trying to write a web app in assembly. Yes, I learned it in college but there no reason to keep using it.


Everything in the first post are very obvious errors that anyone can avoid if they think about it for a few minutes. You can take decent photos with a phone either by learning a bit or just by accident with enough attempts.

The issue with dating apps has more to do with women being able to be incredibly picky. Better photos let’s a average looking guy get a chance. The top 1-5% that all women want to match with don’t need to bother with this at all.


Maybe OP didn't describe the intricacies of photography well enough, but I had to take photography in an art college... but I have a better story to tell.

So, my father is a somewhat famous persona in the world of animation. When I was little, he used to take me to the festivals. And that being the time when movies were distributed on film, in anti-tank mine shaped containers... the editing was done with glue and scissors.

We were friends with the editor who usually worked with him on his films. I remember leaving the screening with her once, and she was talking to my dad, and in excitement she said: "Oh, had you seen the cuts? Such an amazing job!" And by that she meant the few frames between shots that the editors used to leave for their own navigation and other conveniences in the film they edited. Like, you may remember random letters and geometric shapes flashing for a split second on the screen? -- She was super excited to see that! Not the movie itself.

When it comes to photographs: you need to speak the language. Same things done deliberately or accidentally will mean different things. Overexposure? -- perhaps done deliberately for dramatic effect, or perhaps just an accident. Choosing a more grainy film over a finer one? -- Maybe just a lens with not enough light, or maybe the author was going for a special feeling of an older photographs. The main character in the portrait not in focus? -- you cannot tell if that's intentional or not, unless you can tell why.

There was a fashion movement in fashion where high-end clothes were photographed with extremely bright flash mounted on the camera (as opposed to more typical studio setting with diffused light from multiple sources). An artistic adaptation of amateur style. Go figure! It was hip like 20 years ago. But, to read it, you need to know the history. You need to know that it was the style at the time, and through that lens you can look at it and find other things the author had to tell you (whereas w/o the background you might just dismiss it as poorly lit picture).



Is it even not available to competitors? Visual studio is open source. Didn't cusor fork it and is building it features directly into the fork? Not doing something like this would make Copilot at a disadvantage.


> Visual studio is open source

Sort of. The core is, and the installable binaries with telemetry and properietary extensions are not.

The open source, telemetry-free version of VSCode is called VSCodium: https://vscodium.com/

> Didn't cusor fork it and is building it features directly into the fork?

Yes, in their recent interview with Lex Fridman they argued that life as an extension is too limiting.

The main reason we criticise Microsoft for doing this and not them is just their size and market dominance.

Why jump through hoops to make competitors better able to hotwire their own AI into VSCode, or hotwire Copilot into their own IDE, when it's easier to iterate fast and remain unpredictable?


> Why jump through hoops to make competitors better able

Because that is the competitive philosophy that allowed VS Code win in this space. It fits with that great quote from Bill Gates: "A platform is when the economic value of everybody that uses it, exceeds the value of the company that creates it."

By having VS Code give a priority to another MS/GitHub product that they aren't willing to give competitors, they're diminishing VS Code's value as a platform, and encouraging competitors to build their own IDEs rather than building on top of it.


That just tells you where in the EEE lifecycle you are.

    Embrace, extend, and extinguish
          `--->
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace%2C_extend%2C_and_extin...


Embracing, extending, and extinguishing their own tool?

Please consider what you are going to say before you say it.


No, an ecosystem and culture of open source software development tooling.


> Embracing, extending, and extinguishing their own tool?

Consider how C# support in VSCode got nerfed recently:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31760684

https://github.com/dotnet/vscode-csharp/issues/5276

There was another event only a few months ago, but I can't find the reference.


> Please consider what you are going to say before you say it.

Do as I say , not as I do?


Oh my sweet summer child...


do you have anything respectful to say, or just this disrespectful, dismissive response?

If you want to have a discussion, then let's have one. Step one is to have the discussion in good faith. If you're not capable of that, then don't respond at all.


> The open source, telemetry-free version of VSCode is called VSCodium

The open source, telemetry-free version of VSCode is called VSCode. The VSCodium people simply build it for you and package it for you.


The fact that you can access source code allowing you to build a telemetry-free version of VSCode doesn’t magically make what’s actually distributed open source and telemetry free.

The sole thing you can actually download and run while calling it VS Code - a trademarked name - is neither open source nor telemetry-free.


Congratulations, you've won a car!

If you choose to drive it, it's full price.


You're mistaken, Visual Studio Code is open source not Visual Studio, they're different


But Cursor had to fork, so as a developer wanting to use them, you need to give up VS Code and install a new code editor, and you can’t just install a plugin. Very few can maintain a fork and get enough people to use their fork. Also what happens if you have two products that needed a fork? You can’t use them both.

I don’t know if it’s legal or not, IANAL, but it feels definitely anti competitive.


> Visual studio is open source.

No it’s not. Visual Studio is a proprietary product and the latest version is Visual Studio 2022.

Visual Studio Code is open source, and it is about as close to Visual Studio as Lightning is to Lightning Bug.


Competitors compete in the same market. The market in this case is VS Code extensions, with the consumers in that market being the user base of VS Code, not the users of some fork of VS Code. You can't point your competitors to a different market and then reasonably claim to be open to competition.


Many things like C# Dev Kit are closed source. M$ is slowly but surely moving to the extinguish phase in its takeover workflow.


Sigh.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41891653

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41884187

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41809351

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41639205

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41384888

Now, I'm not a big fan of VS Code as of lately. I find the changes, that first broke Customize UI + MonkeyPatch extensions to make it look not completely shit on macOS, and now the change that broke APC too that replaced the first two, completely user-hostile and the PM response in GH issues to that very poor. But this specific lie about what is OSS and what isn't, and how it's used annoys me a lot. You are not helping with the problem.


It is very much a spectrum. People that literally halucinates things are just as rare. I am much closer to the aphatasia side of things. I can picture things in my mind but is extremely different from "seeing" things. It more like remembering how something looks. Also, all the stats on this are kind of bullshit because of how hard it is to describe. People just map on "picturing" to whatever they do.


I think you are overreacting. They didn’t say either of those things are immoral. They said it was an edge case. It is an edge case. The vast majority of people don’t know what a torrent is much and much less are downloading torrents on to their phones.


I had lazy experience people and self-driven interns. The experience on the has very little correlation with attitude. I’ll take the hard working, self motivated person regardless of claimed experience 100/100 times.


If your are choosing not to do anything based on the data, gathering the data is objectively a net negative. There are financial costs related to taking the tests as well as emotion costs related to false positives and even with deciding not to act with possibly true positives.

There needs to be a net positive action on a subset of the cases to outweigh the costs of gathering and sharing the data.


It’s more complex than this. There is a pretty narrow sweet spot where early detection actually helps.

If the cancer is very fast growing, it could be too fast for treatment to help at all. Even if treatment helps there likely not a very long period of time before you develop symptoms that would have lead to treatment regardless.

If it is very slow growing, you might outlive the cancer and it doesn’t require treatment. It is effectively but not actually a benign tumor.

You also have to deal with false negative and positives, that could be an order of magnitude higher than the Goldilocks true postives that earlier detection actually made a difference. It’s easy to see how population results will not show much of a benefit.


Probably the most famous slow growing tumor is prostate cancer. As per my friend who is urology surgeon, basically all men eventually catch it, unless they die young. But it goes so slowly and symptoms are rather mild in most cases no invasive treatment is done.


It’s seems exceedly clear to me that the primary interface for LLMs will voice.


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