I smoke loads of weed and drown my sorrows in alcohol. Adderall to get me started in the mornings. It’s not sustainable but i take 2 months off every year to prevent mental breakdown.
Well the right wing isn’t trying to nullify the second amendment, they haven’t caused massive inflation, they haven’t caused a gas crisis, I’m ok with their nutso god and abortion beliefs as it seems like the lesser evil.
Let's not act like if the democrats started the ball rolling on inflatable. That was all trump with him pressuring the fed to keep interest rates low and this tax cuts.
You get to say roe v Wade repeal is ok because you're a guy so women's rights be damned. It doesn't ever affect you.
The pull a gun over trash scenario is kind of ridiculous because the gun puller would be arrested. And it just doesn’t happen.
It would go like this:
1) I leave trash out
2) Neighbor yells and pulls out gun
3) I put up trash
4) I call police, neighbor is arrested and gun is taken away forever.
I think there’s a perception of “crazy people owning guns” means they are just randomly doing things. Gun owners are typically pretty responsible or self-destructive.
Half the US owns guns and there aren’t many crimes percentage wise. So the vast, vast majority just never do stuff with their gun.
The actual argument is about the extreme outliers who murder people and commit mass shootings. There’s 20M firearm homicides [0] so that’s still super rare as a rate but the impact of each event is super impactful.
> I think there’s a perception of “crazy people owning guns” means they are just randomly doing things. Gun owners are typically pretty responsible or self-destructive.
The problem is there is no filter in the US for the people that are not "pretty responsible or self-destructive." Just about any rando can get a gun in many states.
> The actual argument is about the extreme outliers who murder people and commit mass shootings.
No, it's about the 'background noise' of destruction that is on proverbial page 17 of the newspaper:
> A member of our well regulated militia allows a juvenile access to a loaded gun. The juvenile brings the gun to the home of a 14 year old friend, who shoots himself in the head unintentionally. He doesn’t survive.
> A member of our well regulated militia moves a loaded gun from a bedroom to a bathroom, then leaves it there. Her 6 year old son finds the gun when he goes to take a shower and shoots himself in the head. He does not survive.
> A (drunk) member of our well regulated militia spots her neighbor grilling burgers, so she walks over and points a handgun at his face and says "bang bang." When police arrive at her home, she points a cane at them and pretends it's a long gun.
That sort of thinking directly brought about WW1 as well as the Cuban missile crisis.
If everyone was armed then society's short-fused lunatics are the ones most likely to misjudge a situation and start shooting first over something trivial.
Goes a long way to explaining most shootings by the police too.
CCW is very common in the US now, CCW holders are less likely to commit crimes than police officers. In general CCW or constitutional carry states don't see big wild west shoutouts at grocery stores so no. People are generally good and honest. Criminals are the exception to that, except they don't really care about whether or not carrying a weapon is illegal.
A quick google search brought up a statistic from Pittsburgh 2008 where roughly 1/5 of perpetrators were the legal owners of the gun used in a crime.
Gun crimes are so much more prevalent in the US vs practically any other developed country. Usually by leaps and bounds. Australia used to have around 20% of US gun death rate for years. In 1996 they introduced strict gun control laws. Decline in gun deaths was gradual, but over some 15 years they went down by some 70%.
Legal owner is not the same thing as CC permit holder, and CC permit holders to seem to be safer than other gun owning or carrying categories and rarely involved in altercations or crimes.
Australia is a highly ambiguous example of gun control success for numerous reasons.
It's also worth noting that the funding and law enforcement capacity to disarm the US were stringent gun control legal is borderline impossible, if not just impossible, from a purely mathematical perspective when compared to things the like the war on drugs and considering the sheer number of guns owned.
>In 1996 they introduced strict gun control laws. Decline in gun deaths was gradual, but over some 15 years they went down by some 70%.
Gun deaths worldwide fell precipitously during that same time frame, including in the US. 1994 was the peak of gun violence, and fell almost every years since then until the BLM riots and the ACAB crowd scared cops out of doing their job.
correlation does not equal causation. Economy, pop culture, social safety nets, offline-social networks, and so many other things are factors in all this.
the 90's were not the same at 2009 and not the same as 2021 by many means.
It's a weird stat to consider anyhow. In my experiences, many crimes are not officially reported, and many are not reported completely - so all that is screwed anyhow. There is no way to know how many crimes are committed in each city with illegal gun possessors.
That may be true, although it doesn't really address the parent commentor's line of argument: in environments where few (if any) people are allowed to have guns, concealed carry isn't necessary, and gun crime is rare.
His argument was that a lot of people being armed leads to regular standoffs. CCW being very common and leading to almost no standoffs over stupid arguments absolutely does address it. I'm ignoring comparing individuals to nation states, which is just silly.
Hi I just left CA. SOCAL is turning into a 3rd world country with trash and homeless everywhere. Policies that allow naked homeless machete waving people to kidnap people from the street biting them in the neck and then released the next day. Want to have a gun to protect yourself? Too bad there’s a war on guns so only the criminals seem to have them. Call the police on somebody meandering into your home? They probably won’t come. And don’t protect yourself because the state might charge you. The woke SJW is getting out of control. Some other state is now getting my tax money. The weather was great, though.
