Because now your manager will measure on LOCs against other engineers again and it's only software engineers worrying about complexity, maintainability, and, in summary, the health of the very creature it's going to pay your salary.
This is the new world we live in. Anyone who actually likes coding should seriously look for other venues because this industry is for other type of people now.
I use AI in my job. I went from tolerable (not doing anything fancy) to unbearable.
I'm actually looking to become a council employee with a boring job and code my own stuff, because if this is what I have to do moving forward, I rather go back to non-coding jobs.
i strongly disagree with this - if anything, using AI to code real production code in real complex codebase is MORE technical than just writing software.
Staff/Principal engineers already spend a lot more time designing systems than writing code. They care a lot about complexity, maintainability, and good architecture.
The best people I know who have been using these techniques are former CTOs, former core Kubernetes contributors, have built platforms for CRDTs at scale, and many other HIGHLY technical pursuits.
This is actually where the "myth" of the 10x engineer comes from - there do exist such people and they always could do more than the rest of us ... because they knew what to build. It's not 10K lines of code, it's _the right_ 10K lines of code. Whether using LLMs or LLVM to produce bytes the bytes produced are not the "τέχνη".
That said, I don't think it takes MORE τέχνη to use the machine, merely a distinct ἐμπειρία. That said, both ἐμπειρία and τέχνη aren't σοφία.
Can you please stop posting like this? You've done it repeatedly, it's against the site guidelines, and it's destructive of the curious conversation we're trying for here.
Edit: your account has unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot in other threads as well. We ban such accounts, so if you'd please fix this, we'd appreciate it.
That’s ok Dang. I’d rather not post considering the quality of other people’s posts which claim ridiculous statements with no proof which you seem to allow or even outright misinformation. Asking for evidence is deemed site breaking? Ok. I’m not sure I’d want to be part of a community which allows so much misinformation and outright nonsense. This use to be a site where rational thoughts use to exist but doesn’t anymore and this thread and your focus on my comments seems to show otherwise. Feel free to ban me if that’s going to fix this site. I’m sure discourse will normalize and the misinformation will disappear.
Was the axe or the chainsaw designed in such a way that guarantees that it will definitely miss the log and hit your hand fair amount of the times you use it? If it were, would you still use it? Yes, these hand tools are dangerous, but they were not designed so that it would probably cut off your hand even 1% of the time. "Accidents happen" and "AI slop" are not even remotely the same.
So then with "AI" we're taking a tool that is known to "hallucinate", and not infrequently. So let's put this thing in charge of whatever-the-fuck we can?
I have no doubt "AI" will someday be embedded inside a "smart chainsaw", because we as humans are far more stupid than we think we are.
Even if we had perfectly human-level AI it'd still need management, just like human workers do, and turns out effective management is actually nontrivial.
My cynical take is that the leadership in these countries has realized that no amount of hiding under the carpet could save them from the culpability of having actively supporting a genocide, so now they are scurrying like cockroaches trying to distance themselves from the genocidal Israeli state.
We should remember that it was those very same governments that happily supplied weapons to Israel and actively blocked resolutions by the UN to recognize and stop the genocide that's been happening in the last two years. We need to hold our "leaders" accountable and not allow them to escape culpability.
This book might be relevant for those trying to understand why and how fascists attempt to control the narrative by suppression of the free press, erasure of documents, and nowadays hiding and flagging posts on social media and popular RSS feeds: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/207294076-erasing-histor...
Mostly because I hope it will stop the neverending onslaught of articles and blog posts on HN from folks who giddily insist on telling the world how Claude changed their life and how now they can produce bad code 10x faster than before.
The very normal “normal distribution” of people’s reactions to a swell of change, that like the transistor, isn’t going to stop, seems subdued relative to the implications.
Cognitive tech isn’t just going to change some tasks, some jobs, some companies, or some product lines.
We are witnessing a change only matched by a few other profound milestones in the history of life on this planet.
It’s ok if some people’s enthusiasm gets little ahead of the moment. It will catch up with them all too quickly.
I'm so incredibly bored of AI discussions. That said, it seems like this ChatBot paradigm is going to be sticking around for a while... I almost can't wait for something silly like AR or humanoid robots to take hold.
What is being produced is slop and discardable poc-like trash
The environmental costs of building and training LLMs are huge. That compute and water could have been useful for something.
Even the companies building and peddling AI are losers. They are not profitable, need constant billions of dollars of financial help to even syay afloat and pay their compute depth.
The worst part is that even bigger losers will be the general population. Not only are our kids gonna be dumber than us thanks to never having to think for themselved, but our pensions are tied to the stock market that will inevitably collapse when the realization that the top 30% of companies in terms of value are just dominoes waiting to collapse.
But the biggest loser of all is Elon Musk. Just because of who he is.
Russia can't deal with small Ukraine for 4 years. Their outdated poor tech and drunkard band of villagers called "soldiers" can't defeat a country with 5 times less population. Even with the help of the equally poor and unqualified North Korea and the jihadists of Khadirov, Russia hasn't achieved anything substantial but lose north of a million poor conscripts.
Israel is doing a genocide on the Palestinian population.
You can Hamas this, Hamas that, but Netanyahu bombs hospitals, Palestinian children, starves the Palestinian population, and murders journalists. All war crimes, all stuff we have seen with our own eyes thanks to the wonders of technology.
> On 24 October [2023, right after 7th October], Ghazi Hamad—member of the decision-making Hamas Political Bureau—explained the 7 October attack: "Israel is a country that has no place on our land. We must remove that country because it constitutes a security, military and political catastrophe to the Arab and Islamic nation".
"Netanyahu vows 'there will be no Palestinian state'"
Which is funny, cause there is already a Palestinian state, recognized by 147 of 193 UN countries. Which is similar to Israel: 165 of 193 UN countries. So it seems Netanyahu...is wanting to ...destroy a whole nation...kind of...ethnically cleanse it? Sure sounds like a genocider to me.
Stop the genocide. Israel is doing a genocide and there is nothing to be discussed about its finer points until it stops. Stop it and then we can discuss how similar it was to other genocides and how to punish the Israeli heads of state in Hague.
We see an influx of green accounts like yours created literally hours ago to defend the genocide that Israel is committing and what-about it.
Israel is currently a genocider state. Nazis were a genocider state. It's as simple as that. I am sure there were and still are many nazi-apologists, you are doing the same, but for Israel. Stop the genocide.
If AI is so groundbreaking, why do we have to have guides and jump through 3000 hoops just so we can make it work?
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