how is this nonsense still so persistent? There's piles and piles of evidence that inference has massive gross margins at api pricing. what are you actually talking about?

very very bizarre ideology. Glad you arent having kids. thank you for your service.

Jevon's paradox only applies to products with near infinite demand. Energy being the most famous example. I dont think its difficult to argue that compute/intelligence is also a base input into the economy and theres almost no limit to the amount of intelligence the world will want.

> Stripe is the company I usually hold up as the exemplar of polished internal tools.

unless you work there how would you know this?

I worked there. All the internal tools are amazingly polished. I’ve never seen anything like it.

As someone who has worked there as well, this is just funny to me.

Stripe has already existed for a while, and has gone through ups and downs. There was a period where customer experience was first, and the systems inside were built fast and in rather cavalier ways (See Greg Brockman famously telling everyone in a MongoDB convention about using Mongo's oplog as a queue). There were times where internal tools teams could spend all the time they needed to get about as much shine internally as the external facing websites were. Huge investments in everything. But there's just so much churn, as some staff burns out, and others realize that they have so much vested stock that continuing in such a high intensity environment is pointless, that whatever Stripe might have been during your tenure might be very different from other people's, and you can both be right.

I worked at stripe too. Sail design system at time was exemplary. A ton of effort got invested in little details. They spent an insane effort in making ruby fast with their own jit, formatter and type checker they built.

Post AI, I think the bar hasn’t been the same.

They have published a bunch of stuff about their internal tools in the past. Look up https://stripe.com/blog/stripe-home and compare it to this, as an example.

It's always possible that in reality they were always a bit less polished behind the scenes though.

It's possibly a cost benefit thing. Moving quickly with AI leaves blood splatter, but if you get enough in return you decide it's worth it anyway.

Its always more likely the company pushing the PR is less polished than they present themselves.

bro why. its literally the most overpriced model in existence right now. i could name about 10 models off the top of my head that would be better and cheaper

We tried Luna and it scored way lower in our evals. Muse also. We haven't had a chance to test others.

How much time were you able to put into tuning your prompts? And was it worse on all fronts (cost, latency, accuracy) or just some?

maybe agentic commerce will finally realize the micro-payments based internet that crypto people had been wishing would happen for years? Should there be stablecoin based micropayments built into MCP to charge for agentic interactions to replace the micropayment of an ad into someones eyeballs?

This is (still) never going to happen. A more realistic outcome is a deal between Meta and Amazon to enable access in exchange for invisibly integrating advertisements into the agents' decisions.I don't know exactly what that will look like, but I'd bet we will see a version of it soon.

It can only be this. And it will fail the same reason Alexa failed.

Nobody will blindly trust Amazon to buy products when they know Amazon cannot and will not truly suggest the best product for the consumer.

Alexa was supposed to be the voice gateway to purchasing. But nobody trusts the result Alexa picks because it will not default to the best value to the user - only the best value to Amazon.

very interesting, and im inclined to agree with you. Depends how centralized the agent economy is I suppose where bespoke deals are worth it.

i think its just telling the model that it cant output a shoot action

dude, AI is the cheapest and most widely distributed technological revolution ever.

methinks mathematicians may have a warped perception of their own importance.

you can still get oil paintings in your house. you just arent willing to pay for actual art

You can import oil paintings from China for very cheap. I’ve got a ton of nice ones