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Crash it. It’s more fun that way anyway.


What do you mean? Would they let anyone in?


Well, I think it’s just as weird to refer to it as “the City,” as if there aren’t literally over 100 cities in the 9 Bay Area counties.


There are only two “the city” cities in America.

New York and SF.

If someone asks me where I’m from, anywhere between Santa Cruz and Sacramento, and I say “the city” they will know it’s SF.


The problem is fraud. Locking out Chinese fraudsters at the expense of legitimate Chinese sellers solves the problem.


That’s all yet another instance of “not my problem.” Can’t prevent fraud on your e-commerce site? Maybe you should not be running one.


Couldn't Amazon just say the same thing? 'Not my problem, we offer full refund and if that isn't good enough you can take your business elsewhere'


No. You can’t “not my problem” your way out of being an accessory to fraud.


Why not? It seems like getting a full refund is a pretty big mitigation.


What other crimes do you think should allow the “not my problem” defense? A crime is still a crime even if full restitution is made.


There's a pretty long list. If someone sells a fraudulent product by mail, I don't hold the mail carrier accountable. If I buy a product I don't like on Craigslist, I don't hold them accountable.


The mail carrier does not advertise the fraudulent product and does not handle the financial transaction. There is a pretty obvious difference between a mail carrier and Amazon. Craigslist actually is responsible for stuff that is offered on their website, see also the long-running debates about sex workers advertising on Craigslist.


Craigslist is responsible for sex stuff only due to a very specific and stupid law.


It is not only the customer who suffers damage, but also the seller of legitimate merchandise who is not compensated by Amazon for fraudulent sales. Also, Amazon 100% has a spreadsheet somewhere calculating the share of customers who don't bother claiming fraud compensation.


Do you think Amazon cares? If most customers keep coming back, then Amazon is happy. If they have enough sellers too.


Do you think it's ok if I steal from you as long as I promise to return whatever you notice?


I don’t see any facts coming from you, either.


That's because the premise the EU Commission (and you, by extension) you are defending is so utterly ridiculous that it doesn't really need argumenting that it's bad.

The point the EU Commission is defending here is the need to spy on every word, every bit of interaction you have on the internet. You know, "to protect the children".

I mean, if you truly think like this, how about you give me a live dump of you traffic, desktop, cell phone, ... everything, along with all encryption keys, passwords, etc. You know "so I can check you're not a pedophile". Because that's what this is about.


A friend of mine has shoplifted all kinds of random-ass shit. I'm talking like, oh, an entire dinette set, on one occasion; a canoe, and (unfortunately) only one paddle on another. And, oh, yeah, that $300 Dutch oven in their kitchen cabinet? Yeah, that's stolen.

So, I suppose, you may never know, huh? Because it could be.


How did he/she get it out the door - just run out with it? A dinette set isn’t easily concealed :)


I don’t know if they were bragging about a fake story but I remember an ex Walmart store employee saying they scanned the bar code for a smaller tv and bought a bigger more expensive tv. This was before 9/11 though iirc just to give you a reference of time and technology so don’t try it anymore.



Long ago I worked at Home Depot and we were explicitly told to let people walk if they were stealing. It wouldn’t be concealed, just walked out the door.


Off-topic: how much time has this friend spent in your home alone?


When I was a math grad student, I technically could have gone through the process to get 1 or 2 CS courses approved to give credit toward my degree, but I never actually cared about the "credit" part, anyway. So, I did my regular course in the math department, taught for the math department, then hung out half the day in the CS department. I ended up auditing, and thoroughly half-assing, Algorithms 1, 2, and 3, Programming Languages, and Automata Theory. Still learned a lot, in spite of the half-assery.


Did your timetable/coursework schedule allow you to audit a meaningful number of external courses? I find that I can only allow myself to attend one additional course per semester.

I STUPIDLY started going to lectures on Computer Systems this year without doing my research first (I couldn't find the timetable for Compilers, and relied on being able to take it officially next year). Turns out I don't have enough (or any) background in C, and so I couldn't make sense of a lot of the lecture material. Oh well, at least now I'm learning C, and I still have the lecture recordings.


It's been quite a while, but I believe my school required Automata Theory, which is at least diffeomorphic to Formal Languages.


> But that's explicitly not how the game was set up.

Sorry, but yes, it was. It might not have been written down, but if all it took was for a few people to "scream bloody murder demanding the government make them whole," we need to look deeper at the implicit assumptions surrounding that system. And, part of those assumptions is that truly wealthy individuals get a greater level of service from that system than the rest of us, including bailouts like this. The same goes for "too big to fail" type institutions (viz JPMC and other big banks who are directly benefiting from a loss of confidence in institutions like SVB).


Right, but those are the "implicit" rules, and I was very specifically referring to the "explicit" rules.

I agree that the explicit rules are not the implicit rules. That is a big part of the critique. I'm accusing any "libertarians" who demanded a government bailout in this instance of being just as fake, and just as bullshit, as those explicit rules are.


Wow, how is it that there's only one instructional book to learn Serbian? There are many books to learn Norwegian out there (which I'm familiar with because I have learned a bit of Norwegian in the past), and fewer people speak it than Serbian.


Norway's economy is 7x that of Serbia (from Wolfram Alpha) and the Nordics do invest in this sort of thing.


Those are 2 very different places :)


I just think there's a lack of interest, which is a little sad. The culture is rich and fun, and the language is rhythmic and poetic. I wish more people would try to connect with their Slavic history!


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