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I feel like quoting that classic hn comment reaction to the release of Dropbox. Why do we need this good experience? We already have ftp!

> I feel like quoting that classic hn comment reaction to the release of Dropbox.

You mean the one where the commenter was respectful and helpful and had a productive conversation, just like HN encourages?

Every time you mention that comment in a bad light, you worsen dang’s day.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27068148


Thank you, this is my pet peeve as well

Of the top of my head I'd say it takes pressure of Israel. "Our leaders are doing something", which makes western populace feel good about themselves again and move on to the next thing. I'd describe it as a 4d chess move for Israel.

I see a lot of whitewashing of Charlie Kirk on social media at the moment that this quote reminds me of. The guy made a killing from speaking hate and then he got killed by hate himself. Like the guy that's always in the jurassic park movies, that doesn't think letting the t-rex out will be much of a problem, and then he get's killed by the t-rex and everyone else needs to deal with the t-rex of hate and far wingism walking the streets.

I didn't know Charlie Krik before. After watching these videos, I don't believe he was such a hateful person: Amir Odom: https://youtu.be/N14ywRyTWVI Bill Maher: https://youtu.be/OblCcO7-Alg Jordan Peterson: https://youtu.be/dP0TagcNvCg

He clearly feels he is superior to everyone else, including the interviewers. He feigns humility but interrupts repeatedly.

Did you watch all the videos where he says all the hateful things? Why wouldn't you link to all those videos? Cause for being such a supposedly kind man he sure did say a lot of hateful stuff. We have 10 years of backlog to go though.

Like how he dehumanized women by saying they should submit to their husbands. Or when he said Joe Biden should be killed. Or all the times he used slurs for lgbt. Or the time he joked that it would be funny if the Pelosi attacker would be let loose. Or all the many times he called women and black people dumb. He can't help himself, he goes on and on with his explicit hate and racism. I've had they misfortune of watching the full length videos of these clips, and they just make it clear that he really means these things. He just keeps speaking his hateful heart.

He wished death on his political opponents. That alone should make him someone you wouldn't want to associate with for fear of how it reflects on you.


Sure they benefit, but so do a lot of other people. Sound fair to ask everyone else to pitch in. Deno have already bankrolled this themselves for a while.

Deno have been bankrolling this case for a pretty long time already. Winning this case will benefit everybody who are benefited by Javascript. Sound fair to ask for everyone else to pitch in.

How? How does it benefit people. The name javascript being trademarked has never affected me once in my life. Especially since its technically Ecmascript and I am technically writing typescript nowadays.

All the people who are trying to make a living educating people on JavaScript cannot safely use the darn name of the thing.

Has there been any cases like this recently? I can't recall this being an issue

> mostly benefits themselves

This is incorrect. All users of Javascript benefit.


I personally am a user of JavaScript and don’t care what it is called. Call it FuckScript for what I care. How does this benefit anything other than Deno marketing?


How?

My happy middle ground solution that I've been practicing for years is to update all packages every 2 to 4 months.

Those are smaller second order effects. Gutting the income to the Russian war machine is the first order effect and a clear win for Ukraine.

Maybe a plausible argument if Ukraine had stopped Russian gas flowing through it's territory at the start of the war and there where flows through NS at the time.

But actually, by the time of the bombing the Russian gas was only flowing through Ukrainian pipelines. So Ukraine was ensuring "income to the Russian war machine", while Nord Stream was just costing them money; at most it could have been used as collateral in a loan.


Nord Stream 1 started operations in 2011. For 11 years money was flowing and the Russian army was in terrible shape in 2022. Now, without the Nord Stream money, it is in better shape.

When the pipeline was sabotaged, no gas and no money were flowing anyway, which makes it even more absurd. There is a very high likelihood that the front lines would be in the exact same place if Nord Stream had not been sabotaged.

Except of course, the EU would have had more leverage in negotiating LNG deals with the US and Qatar rather than making emergency deals.

EDIT: Downvoted while the Ukrainian transit pipelines were open from 2014-2025 and yielded Russian transit fees. And while Nord Stream was built partly because Ukraine stole Russian transit gas in 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_dis...


Are you trying to argue the difference between keeping something offline vs taking it offline? Cause it's a weak argument.

It's like you're bending over backwards to make arguments in the direction you already decided you want it to go. Like you're trying to force a square peg into a round hole. If you already decided what you want to think then why do you need arguments?


Do you seriously accuse me for providing arguments for not blowing up a pipeline that is 50% owned by Germany, France and The Netherlands?

If it had been done to a US pipeline, it would have been called terrorism.



No. This is one person leaving.

There was a huge uproar about that guy specifically and deep dependency graphs in general a year ago. A lot has already changed for lots of the popular frameworks and libraries. Dependency graphs are already much slimmer. The cultural change is happening, but we can't expect it to happen all at once.

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