Sure they benefit, but so do a lot of other people. Sound fair to ask everyone else to pitch in. Deno have already bankrolled this themselves for a while.

Deno have been bankrolling this case for a pretty long time already. Winning this case will benefit everybody who are benefited by Javascript. Sound fair to ask for everyone else to pitch in.

How? How does it benefit people. The name javascript being trademarked has never affected me once in my life. Especially since its technically Ecmascript and I am technically writing typescript nowadays.

> mostly benefits themselves

This is incorrect. All users of Javascript benefit.

I personally am a user of JavaScript and don’t care what it is called. Call it FuckScript for what I care. How does this benefit anything other than Deno marketing?

How

How?

My happy middle ground solution that I've been practicing for years is to update all packages every 2 to 4 months.

Those are smaller second order effects. Gutting the income to the Russian war machine is the first order effect and a clear win for Ukraine.

Maybe a plausible argument if Ukraine had stopped Russian gas flowing through it's territory at the start of the war and there where flows through NS at the time.

But actually, by the time of the bombing the Russian gas was only flowing through Ukrainian pipelines. So Ukraine was ensuring "income to the Russian war machine", while Nord Stream was just costing them money; at most it could have been used as collateral in a loan.

Nord Stream 1 started operations in 2011. For 11 years money was flowing and the Russian army was in terrible shape in 2022. Now, without the Nord Stream money, it is in better shape.

When the pipeline was sabotaged, no gas and no money were flowing anyway, which makes it even more absurd. There is a very high likelihood that the front lines would be in the exact same place if Nord Stream had not been sabotaged.

Except of course, the EU would have had more leverage in negotiating LNG deals with the US and Qatar rather than making emergency deals.

EDIT: Downvoted while the Ukrainian transit pipelines were open from 2014-2025 and yielded Russian transit fees. And while Nord Stream was built partly because Ukraine stole Russian transit gas in 2006: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_dis...

Are you trying to argue the difference between keeping something offline vs taking it offline? Cause it's a weak argument.

It's like you're bending over backwards to make arguments in the direction you already decided you want it to go. Like you're trying to force a square peg into a round hole. If you already decided what you want to think then why do you need arguments?

Do you seriously accuse me for providing arguments for not blowing up a pipeline that is 50% owned by Germany, France and The Netherlands?

If it had been done to a US pipeline, it would have been called terrorism.

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No. This is one person leaving.

There was a huge uproar about that guy specifically and deep dependency graphs in general a year ago. A lot has already changed for lots of the popular frameworks and libraries. Dependency graphs are already much slimmer. The cultural change is happening, but we can't expect it to happen all at once.

People change their minds once they get used to something. There's reason to have patience.

This comment actually made me read it slower as it progressed, because I felt a feeling of awe welling up of how insightful it is.

Anecdotally: Happy people seem to like to talk about anything and everything. Unhappy people don't like to talk or only talk about one thing.

I just got inspired on an llm prompt, and got these three koans, that to me are the most amazing things I've been able to get out of llms so far: https://pastebin.com/tc9uMWuw

Thank you for the set up.

I wonder if this is how daydreaming helps, especially as a kid. I think that being taught not to dream as much as an adult and being in the moment kind of removes this random focus in our brains