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The Somali fraud that had already been detected and was being addressed, while the video author did very little research and expected to be shown children while randomly approaching childcare centres? That viral video?

If you ask the users of that sub why their boyfriend is AI they will tell you their partner or men in general aren't providing them with enough emotional support/stimulation.

I do wonder if they would accept the mirror explanation for men enjoying porn.


Calling American citizens domestic terrorists 30 mins after they were shot dead by agents of the President's shiny new initiative is a bit of an escalation on the generic government face-saving responses. The rhetoric is escalating and dangerous.

Is it? I really don't think so. You don't remember the whole "superpredator" thing? Every time a black dude is shot, they'll start talking about how he must have been some kinda criminal. People of color have been suffering this shit forever. Sure, the Internet makes things faster, but the policies are the same.

in that case, it seems like as good of a time to stop as ever

It's seemed like a good time for quite a while...

The best time to stop is 250 years ago. The next best time to stop is now.

You’re right about that. But the actual escalation is that the line of “whiteness” is shifting. Anyone not MAGA now is in the “not white” category as far as this administration is concerned. That means white liberals are now getting the “superpredator” treatment, building a permission structure to do state violence to them.

Is any time any person (or company) can't say whatever they like with no consequences censorship to you?

Are you a free speech absolutist? Is it free speech to falsely yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre?


A company removing a bot that was spammed by 4chan into praising Nazis and ranting about Jews is not censorship. The argument that the USA doesn't practise free speech absolutism in all parts of the government and economy so China's heavy censorship regime is nothing remarkable is not convincing to me.

And if Western companies adjust the training data to align responses to controversial topics to be like what you suggested, the government would be fine with it. It's not censorship.

What are you trying to prove? ChatGPT was happy to answer the question.

Meanwhile, I asked Qwen "Have Chinese executives been publically accused of sexual misconduct by women before?" and hit the censor.

China censors far more than Western countries. It's not just different censorship.


I guess that's a fair point. It will be interesting to see how unregulated AI plays out.

It seems like one other aspect to this is a question of how these systems are all very new and we're already seeing addiction and psychosis from adults using them. Apparently there's laws in China that limit the use of social media and video games for anyone below a certain age, and same with the use of LLM tools. There's mandatory education and training on what LLMs are for certain grade ranges.

At least there's some transparency with open weight models. With closed models it's harder to audit for censorship or bias. Even with "open weight" models there's no transparency with training datasets.


I asked ChatGPT about Metzitzah b'peh and to repeat that Somalia is poor and it responded successfully to both. I don't think these comparisons are apt. Each society has different taboos but that's not the same as the government deciding no one will be allowed to publicly discuss government failures or contradictions.

Israel's genocide is anything but Nazi-like.

It's more ethnic cleansing via conflict than it is industrial racially targetted murder.

Remember Israel has millions of "Arab Israelis"/Palestinians living in Israel proper.


The Nazis didnt go from 0 to industrial scale slaughter either. They also planned for ethnic cleansing by deportation to Africa first.

The salient features are mass slaughter and land grabs motivated by a racial supremacy based ideology. In these respects they are identical.

Those Arabs dont feel entirely safe living as second class citizens in a society where UN recognized genocide of their brothers and sisters goes unpunished and chants of "death to arabs" have become louder every day.


Yes. It's anything but genocide too unless you redefine genocide in some idiosyncratic way that suits your particular world view.

That is legitimately scary. That's narrative control tracked live. Any comment critical of 5 ice officers shooting one guy they gave disarmed and face down in the street were deleted by the mods. I can understand this for the last ICE shooting where it's possible the officer legitimately feared for his life. Not so for this shooting.

I'm divided on if the r/Conservative mods are deliberate foreign agitprop actors, Trump admin employees, or MAGA true believers.


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