How much have hdd prices really fallen? AFAIK the incredible improvements in price per byte in HDD had slowed so much that they'll be eclipsed by SSDs in a few years.
Flash went from within 2x the price of DRAM in 2012 or so to maybe 40-50x cheaper today, driven somewhat by shrinking feature sizes, but mostly by the shift from SLC (1 bit/cell) to TLC (3 bits) and QLC (4 bits) and from planar to 300+ layer 3D flash.
Flash is near the end of the “S-curve” of those technologies being rolled out.
During that time HDD technology was pretty stagnant, with a mere 2x increase due to higher platter count with the use of helium.
New HDD technologies (HAMR) are just starting their rollout, promising major improvements in $/GB over the next few years as they roll out.
You can’t just look at a price curve on a graph and predict where it’s going to go. The actual technologies responsible for that curve matter.
> mostly by the shift from SLC (1 bit/cell) to TLC (3 bits) and QLC (4 bits) and from planar to 300+ layer 3D flash
That "and" is doing a lot of work.
In 2012 most flash was MLC.
In 2025 most flash is TLC.
> During that time HDD technology was pretty stagnant, with a mere 2x increase due to higher platter count with the use of helium.
They've advanced slower than SSDs but it wasn't that slow. Between 2012 and 2025, excluding HAMR, sizes have improved from 4TB to 24TB and prices at the low end have improved from $50/TB to $12/TB.
This is one of those times a downvote confuses me. I corrected some numbers. Was I accidentally rude? If I made a mistake on the numbers please give the right numbers.
If my first line was unclear: We might say the denser bits give us a 65% density improvement. And quick math shows that a 80-100x improvement is actually nine 65% improvements in a row. So the denser bits per cell aren't doing much, it's pretty much all process improvement.
3D flash is over 300 layers now. The size of a single 300-bit stack on the surface of the chip is bigger than an old planar cell, but that 300x does a lot more than make up for it.
3D NAND isn’t a “process improvement” - it’s a fundamental new architecture. It’s radically cheaper because it’s a set of really cheap steps to make all 300+ layers, not using any of the really expensive lithography systems in the fab, then a single (really complicated) set of steps to drill holes through the layers for the bit stacks and coat the insides of the holes.
Chip cost basically = the depreciation of the fab investment during the time a chip spends in the fab, so 3D NAND is a huge win. (just stacking layers by running the chip through the process N times wouldn’t save any money, and would probably just decrease yields)
A total guess - 2x more expensive for extra steps, bit stacks take 4x more area than planar cells, 300 layer would have 300/8 = 37.5x cheaper bits. (That 4x is pulling a lot of weight - for all I know it might be more like 8x, but the point stands)
Because they made something different with the same process, instead of making the same thing with a different process. Feature size didn’t get any smaller. (or, rather, you get the order of magnitude improvement without it, and those gains were vastly more than the feature size improvements over that time period)
Also because “process improvement” usually refers to things where you get incremental improvements basically for free as each new generation of fab rolls out. Unless you can invent a 4D flash, this is a single (huge) improvement that’s mostly played out.
Oh, and no one has a solution to make HDDs faster. If anything, they may have gotten slower as they get optimized for capacity instead of speed.
(Well, peak data transfer rate keeps going up as bits get packed tighter, but capacity goes up linearly with areal bit density, while the speed the bits go under the head goes up with the square root.)
(Well, sort of. For a while a lot of the progress came from making the bits skinnier but not much shorter, so transfer rates didn’t go up that much)
Magnetic hard drives are 100X cheaper per GB than when S3 launched, and are about 3X cheaper than in 2016 when the price last dropped. Magnetic prices have actually ticked up recently due to supply chain issues, but HAMR is expected to cause a significant drop (50-75%/GB) in magnetic storage prices as it rolls out in next few years. SSDs are ~$120/T and magnetic drives are ~$18/T. This hasn't changed much in the last 2 years.
This so much this.
Vscode has a very good syntax check github actions yaml so it's not yaml that's the problem.
It's the workflow for developing pipelines that's the problem. If I had something I could run locally - even in a debug dry-run only form that would go a long way to debugging job dependencies, etc. Testing failure cases flow conditional logic in the expected manner etc.
Yes. Most of my custom pipeline stuff is a thin wrapper around a normal-ass scripting-language because the yaml/macro stuff is so hard to check and debug.
Honestly, everything about GH actions/AzDO pipelines is infuriating. The poor tooling with poor write-time assertions are just so frustrating.
Give me a proper platform that I can run locally on my development machine.
but, if those anchors are a blessed standard YAML feature that YAML tools will provide real assertions about unlike the ${{}} stuff that basically you're doing a commit-push-run-wait-without any proper debug tools besides prints?
I have no skin in the game, but I will do that for you, if you bring back the children from the death. Can you do that? Let's start from the Nakba. Maybe even from last year.
No one is asking people to go back to Europe. All you have to do is Stop the Genocide, Repair. Reconcile. And stop the apartheid. But you know what, you have decided that Israel is untenable without war. Israel is of no use to the neo Imperialists, unless it keeps the region unstable.
Are you sure you have no skin in the game, I can’t find a single comment from you on this site that isn’t politicised surrounding the Israel/Palestine conflict.
I'm not. The last few years have made it very clear what the actual political goals of the VC-tech world are. I was as disappointed as anybody, but I'm not surprised anymore.
I was trying to be more neutral, but after some thought, this isn't the time for that. My "surprise" was more than a bit sarcastic. Between this and the FCC going after Kimmel, now is the last chance I will give for anyone claiming to care about free speech to prove they weren't lying. There's no plausible deniability anymore, free speech is unambiguously under attack.
What’s even more hilarious are all the anti cancel culture warriors from the past few years going on about how the Kimmel situation isn’t cancel culture.
Especially since this is probably the only incident in the last couple of decades where the cancelation was a result of the government threatening consequences unless a specific individual was not canceled.
It is a pretty big difference when the left wing cancel culture is a grassroots efforts of the populace trying to enforce moral behavior versus the right wing cancel culture we are seeing today in which the government is the one exerting pressure and not the populace.
Oh, sweet summer child. It's as "grassroots" as the Cultural Revolution (party elites encouraging and directing mobilized workers and farmers to play out their power plays) was grassroot.
The FBI and others telling Twitter what to censor, the goverment agencies threating companies to comply, academics and prestigious news media on lockstep, nebulous NGOs and "think tanks" suggesting what's fake news and what's not, tech behemoths collaborating, even banks having a go at it.
In other words, it's as top down as the current Republican shit is.
I'm glad you finally agree free speech under attack. Now that the president/party in power has changed, it seems the comments have shifted from being that "I must be left wing" to "I must be right wing".
Is there anything that will make you interested in free speech itself, or is it just an attack towards those you disagree with? People don't want to waste time in an internet debate with someone who starts off with an assumption of the latter, and you've already concluded you were being sarcastic in asking. The lack of interest in responding to you about it will only help drive your belief "the other people" are the only ones who claim to care about free speech.
That is because the complaints about left wing threats to free speech are always incredibly dubious like the government asking social media sites to take down what was widely considered dangerous Covid misinformation or some random college professor saying people should use "Latinx". In comparison, the right wing attacks on free speech are like the FCC threatening people for mild jokes. Can you name anything the left wing has done that approaches what we just saw with Kimmel?
The Biden administration started this whole TikTok thing in the first place, you just liked the platform at the time and are now getting bit in the ass when the group in power has changed. I'm not interested in which side is supposed to be worse than the other so someone can feel better about the speech they are okay with suppressing, I'm interested in free speech all the time.
The Kimmel thing is indeed a stupid and dangerous attack on free speech, but you can't just wait until the speech under attack is about something you care for to declare that. It's already too late at that point, which is what many of the people you eagerly dismiss as just caring about right wing politics were trying to say.
Others have addressed "this whole TikTok thing" being attributed to Biden. I asked you for a left wing equivalent for Kimmel and you couldn't name one. Somehow this lack of an equivalent left wing attack is evidence of them sharing responsibility for this right wing attack on free speech. That is a perfect illustration of my point. I'm not going to "waste time in an internet debate with someone" who can't see the silliness of the argument you just made.
Fair on "starting", I should have said "was perfectly in support of and did not attempt to stop" https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-administration-leave-t... and I'm willing to see it was silly to forget the specifics by claiming a different sequence to the topic - hopefully you are also willing to make the same kinds of considerations instead of only using such questions as assumptions of other people.
There is no lack of "equivalent left wing attack", just shifts on when it's okay to do based on how much the individual agrees with it. I've had this exact conversation with right wing folks but the other way around (where nothing conservative was unreasonable suppression but plenty left wing was unreasonable suppression). Because you agree with the views of whatever the Biden admin supported e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disinformation_Governance_Boar... then you don't consider it a problem (and yes, the Biden administration likes to claim it was just building on something the Trump administration had started... which gets us nowhere in actually doing something positive for free speech instead of using it as a blame game). Because someone else agrees with Trump/Kirk they don't consider it a problem. As a result, there is nothing I can say that will make anyone agree when things are equivalent. The difference is not that I agree with a different agenda, nor do I need to find equivalence, it's that I'm not interested in weighing the speech itself.
I, obviously, don't like Russian misinformation (or human smugglers or whatever thing is obviously malintended), but I don't think trying to have a government body decide what is misinformation is a good way to solve the concerns. That's what a free speech absolutist is after all, not just a way to say only a certain party did something bad. I could go on and on about specific instances, but all that does is rile people up about "why would you put that in a list of bad things" or "that's obviously not as big a deal to worry about" whenever they see something they tend to agree with. Those not in support of free speech have no problem saying other transgressions on free speech are a bigger deal, just in agreeing what "other" is.
Supporting free speech is not about agreeing with the speech, it's about tackling any perceived bad speech with open means instead of power. I don't agree with either the Biden or Trump administrations on the ways either seek to suppress social media, regardless if you think some are justified and others aren't. You think it's okay to suppress things as long as they seem harmless or small to you, I don't. That's the only fair assumption of what a free speech absolutist is.
I will give credit that at least my original comment isn't already flagged dead for saying I'm really about free speech instead of the opposition, which has been the typical result the previous 4 years.
I'd tend to agree (I voted Jill Stein) but in context of U.S. politics he's usually considered as such (at least as center left, not center right or even center), albeit less so than some other figures.
I'd also agree Trump is more conservative than Biden is liberal, but I think we're getting a bit into the weeds here...
The point with Biden and Trump is whenever free speech is mentioned, people conclude the part of a political spectrum they identify with is being attacked by someone they perceive as being on a different part, with no belief there could ever be a person actually worried about free speech itself. It's not at all about whether I agree or disagree with where they perceive that threat to be from on the spectrum, it's just what such people like to claim. I've yet to see a normal political spectrum where 100% of folks agree with free speech absolutism, even when inconvenient.
To folks who actually care about free speech instead of partisan politics, the idea of debating where on a scale of 1 to 10 the source of the threat might be from is in itself absurdly irrelevant. To folks that don't care about free speech, it's convenient to perceive free speech claims as only ever having a hidden partisan agenda instead of allowing the possibility of a free speech absolutist. The only exception I can think to any of this is a political spectrum where one side is "free speech absolutism" itself.
tl;dr: the entire US media is now controlled by men who've bent the knee to Trump and have demonstrated that theyre willing to take an activist editorial role.
AFAIK all information anybody had at the time was that he grew up in a good gun-loving Republican family and he'd written some silly memes on the shell casings.
The discord chats and his relationship with a trans woman were AFAIK not revealed yet, or at least were so new that they maybe hadn't made it to Kimmel's writers room.
That kind of problem gets a demand of a retraction, not a firing.
Contrast that to a Fox News host calling for mass executions of homeless people the other day (and since that day there have been multiple mass killings of homeless people). That guy got off with a thin apology.
It's "Rules for thee but not for me," with these folks.
And it's not like it's a surprise either. As Sartre observed[0] decades ago:
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre
The threat against Australia was fascinating.. I guess Trump figured out "tariffs" is a big appendage like the one he never has, but now can swing around, and "you better be nice, or I'm going to do to your country what I did to the numerous amounts of women in my life...".
An Australian reporter recently asked Trump how much money he has made since returning to office and if it is ethical for a person in his position. His org got locked out of a press conference in retaliation and we get the mafia boss threats about it not being good for our country to ask those sorts of questions.
Anyone living in the USA should by now have made a decision where their line in the sand lies. Without a free press or opposition things can move quickly so decide now. If I was a member of a minority likely to be a target I would want to know I had an exit strategy.
Trump also said he's gonna tell Australia's prime minister about the reporter, which is kinda nuts (and hilarious?)
Old track, but just hard to imagine what would have happened if Biden was asked about his corruption and answered like that. But it's hypothetical anyway, since no previous president would ever be rug-pulling crypto scams or selling watches and bibles.
I just can't believe how weekly, or sometimes daily, I share these wild stories and videos with some friends and they keep behaving like anything about this is normal. There are so many things that would make me go WTF even without the context of the constant grift it all comes with.
The naked emperor was already a pissy chad over Jimmy; this grudge-holding isn't new at all. Trump, back in July:
> The word is, and it's a strong word at that, Jimmy Kimmel is NEXT to go in the untalented Late Night Sweepstakes and, shortly thereafter, Fallon will be gone. These are people with absolutely NO TALENT, who were paid Millions of Dollars for, in all cases, destroying what used to be GREAT Television. It's really good to see them go, and I hope I played a major part in it!
Nexstar owns outright a bunch of broadcast zones in America, with zero conpetition in those broadcast areas. So them folding and everyone else following suit isn't much of a surprise. It's pathetic that media ownership has degraded to such a sorry lame ass state, that there's many markets where almost all broadcast media is via one company. The decayed anti-health of media continues to plague this nation, allow the worst poxes to spread.
Yeah, that argument too. I didn't mention the first amendment though. For example it is also a requirement for basic science within the framework of enlightenment.
I get the xkcd and it certainly has a valid context. This is not it though. This retort just underlines a perspective that is characterized by severe lack of foresight, simple as that.
I don't even get the point you are trying to make. The issue is removing people due to their political opinions. This might have happened to Kimmel now.
You are still free to associate with anyone freely, but there is an expectation that you behave like an adult and can withstand different opinions. Otherwise no sensible dialogue is possible. Obviously that was not the case for the murderer of Kirk and the general sentiment is that some political factions have had difficulties here as well.
> The issue is removing people due to their political opinions.
No. The issue is who is doing that action. Illegal speech is not the same as rude speech. My boss can’t declare my opinions illegal. They can fire me.
> You are still free to associate with anyone freely, but there is an expectation that you behave like an adult and can withstand different opinions.
Nah. I can throw a tantrum, publicly decry you as an asshole and go no-contact with you. That’s legal, and part of my freedom of expression and association.
The government can’t confiscate my license over the tantrum.
I wholeheartedly disagree. If you are excluded in research for your opinion, we could just as well install the church again. The vanity is the same.
This time it is Trump directly. Sure, that is also a problem. Previously it was the handlers of government, so it didn't need to intervene directly. NGOs or just companies getting government grants, didn't matter.
> I can throw a tantrum, publicly decry you as an asshole and go no-contact with you. That’s legal, and part of my freedom of expression and association.
Of course and I welcome you to do so.
We are not talking about instances where people were rude to their bosses. We are talking about instances where people had the wrong political opinion and some faculties are in dire need of reform because of the structures they formed by excluding everyone not in line. That is a problem, obviously. A problem best described as a violation of freedom of expression. You can look up the definition on wikipedia. In the first sentence there is something about repercussions. Easy concept, you would think...
> Wiki: Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction
After very clear threats of official action from the FCC chair up to and including revocation of their broadcasting licenses. For protected speech. That is a very, very clear First Amendment violation.
"FCC chairman Brendan Carr has threatened to take action against ABC after Jimmy Kimmel said in a monologue that 'the MAGA gang' was attempting to portray Charlie Kirk‘s assassin as 'anything other than one of them.' 'We can do this the easy way or the hard way,' Carr said. 'These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.'... 'You could certainly see a path forward for suspension over this,' Carr said."
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