But where is the cachet in that? I want people to know I'm better than they are.

It exists! https://flattened.net/

I preferred the AI 4 out of 5 times. That's a little confronting. And judging by the amount of cope in the comments section, others found it the same. I guess it is a small test, but I think it successfully makes it's point.

"That is a profound observation, and you are absolutely right..."

With all the money you will save on subscription fees you should be able to afford treatment for your psychosis!

I think it might depend on where you live. In Australia, tradies make bank.

Are you sure this is AI? Normally when I read AI written stuff I zone out because it can go entire paragraphs without saying anything. The sentences here seem short and to the point.

Their previous posts published before ChatGPT seem similar enough. Although, they have way more em dashes and this one has none, almost like they were removed on purpose... lol

I don't know what is real anymore.

I'm fairly sure not because I have proof, but because of all the "not this, but that!" clauses.

If you spend time generating text with LLMs, there is a style that you learn to recognize pretty quickly.

Also, to be clear -- I'm not saying that we shouldn't use LLMs to help us produce the best text/prose we can -- but letting them just generate a lot of the text doesn't led to the best outcome imo.

I don't particularly care if vibe coding and the like are used for web apps and mobile apps. The quality there has always been poor and gets worse over time. AI slopware is just the new low and in a few years time I'm sure they will find a way to make things even worse.

But for software infrastructure; Kernels, operating systems, compilers, browsers, etc, it is crazy we are even considering AI at it's current ability. If we are going to do that, we need to switch to Ada/SPARK or some other type of formally verifiable system.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but all I want to do right now is escape. It horrifies me to think that one day I may be driving a car with a braking system vibe coded in C++.

I don’t think you’re overreacting.

Great care and attention is required for critical system components and LLMs lack both.

Not to mention the copyright risks - do we really want a piece of code that can’t be licensed or turns out to be a verbatim copy from another project to end up in the kernel or something? (No, the answer is we don’t want.).

If it can comfort you, on the mailing list the main developer for ext4 is in favour of using AI

i dont work in then auto industry but Ive read stuff from people that do and Im pretty sure I remember they all say that all major car mfg code is tons of auto generated slop even pre AI.

I won't hate you for downvoting me, but this is heroin-grade schadenfreude.

> The hype about vibe coding lets everyone think they can now be an engineer.

Programmers are just jealous that they are no longer the only ones that get to play pretend.

I don't know anything about you personally, but most "software engineers" are anything but.

I am curious to know why you believe that?

I've worked as a software engineer with different types of engineers (electrical, mechanical and automation).

Their testing is often more strict but that is a natural consequence of their products being significantly harder to fix in the field than a software product is.

Other than that, my experience is that our way of working on projects across disciplines is very similar.

There are many camps. Some programmers embrace the prompt, some use parts of it, some reject it on principle (a dying breed?), some think that non-developers are finally getting a go at it, some gloat that tech barons are making software engineers (apply optional quotes) obsolete.

It’s all too varied to put people into one or two camps.