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I don't think I've ever met a leftist denying evolution.

Me neither. Lots of them deny that certain differences between humanity exist however, and that's just biology.

Eg. Fe-/male and racial differences. They exist, yet they cannot be admitted to and any reference to them will have the political left call you a nazi, racist, sexist and pedo to boot, because the other terms are already less impactful from overuse


It’s one of those topics where there’s a kernel of truth, but most people who insist women or Black people are scientifically different are not doing so out of any interest in science. So the small percentage of people who just want to make a valid point get lumped in with the much larger group, and unfairly tarred.

Perhaps because, to many people, it seems wrong to set policy based on marginal differences in the aggregate when the policy will affect individuals, and also because people doubt the motives of those who are highly invested in proving a scientific basis for negative stereotypes.


I wonder who makes assumptions that these differences are marginal and refuse or deny any studies that conclude otherwise. The left version of climate change if you will.

> any reference to them will have the political left call you a nazi, racist, sexist and pedo to boot

I think this boils down to the fact it's typically just a thin veil for motivated reasoning.


What's the veiled motivation of a white person who says that Asians are intellectually superior to whites?

Leftists see racism and sexism everywhere - their ideology focusses on that and they pick up on any excuse they can to label people as that. It's actually a horrible way to treat their fellow humans.


Totally, but there’s a lot more to science than just evolution.

Sure, but that's one of examples OP gave and it doesn't match my experience. Doesn't leave a great impression of the rest of the argument.

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I think it’s less that it’s impossible but more that we don’t have any clue as to what causes differences among groups and many people use such measured differences as evidence for pretty deplorable ideas. There’s much more evidence for social determiners than anything biological. Everyone outside of Africa shares a single ancestor 20,000 years ago. There’s far more genetic diversity within Africa than the rest of the world. That alone is often enough to disprove many theories regarding racial differences since our intuitive understanding of “genetic difference” is so flawed.

Past research has a eugenicist bias because early statisticians were eugenicists seeking evidence for the ideas. I would argue that’s why the social determiners research is valuable to help offset that.


It's closer to 70,000 years. If not, then explain the Australian Aborigines.

Because if you give an inch to that line of thinking, it leads to broader dehumanization and mass tragedy.

No matter how noble your intentions are, if you reject science then you're anti-science. Leftists need to learn to admit that about themselves instead of trying to have their cake and eat it too.

This is a good point.

There are times where lefties will deny science in an effort to avoid mass atrocities, which I think is a fraught situation.

Inversely, righties tend to deny science in order to justify mass atrocities (like industrial-scale animal suffering or cataclysmic extinction events).

These are basically the same thing! /s


I just want to vent: climate change is not a controversial topic, it's an inconvenient topic for people making a lot of money.

The controversy is over whether we should learn more about it and take appropriate actions, or ignore it. This fundamental disagreement makes it a controversial topic.

Reminds me of the when all the catholic priests were molesting kids and being moved around instead of outed and prosecuted. This was also a controversial topic too for the same reasons. Some people wanted to take action, while other (more powerful) people wanted to ignore it.


In the US, sure.

In Australia we established a Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse, looked at all the schools and institutions regardless of creed (and, it turned out, the Christian Brothers were the clear worst of the worst - although few came away unscathed) and then put a senior Vatican Cardinal on trial.

TBH it's been a lot harder to get the worst carbon offenders under close scrutiny in a very public eye.


Check out the timing. The sex abuse scandal broke in the US in the late 90s/early 2000s and the fight went on here for many years before it spread to the rest of the church.

The church in Rome was blowing it off as an American problem for many years.

That Australian commission was established in 2012. The battle had already been going on for well over a decade in the US.

If you want to see how things were going early on you can look at things like Sinéad O'Connor stuff from 1992:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sin%C3%A9ad_O'Connor_on_Saturd...


The Australian Commission wasn't the first effort in a known problem ongoing since first landing, it was the peak response in Australia after many decades of battle ... has there been a national effort of a similar scope in the US ?

As a leading exporter of coal Australia isn't really a good example of a serious climate actor.

Australia's a good example of a country that sells out its resources for a pittance NSR in exchange.

We can talk about Indian coal companies (Thermal), global steel demand (Metallurgical), US natural gas extractors, etc.

Still, at least we have the vast areas untouched by modern man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh9IkUUgaww


It’s true. In the US reality itself has become controversial. Maybe the oligarchs’ lies are just as valid as objective reality? Who can say!

I see no controversy there, yes we should take some very strong action since we literally crap where we live and we only have 1 self-contained room for it all, the debate (not controversy) should be about which steps are most efficient, while not ruining the economy albeit some acceptable setback is probably unavoidable.

So no to dumb fuckery EU did with biofuels (for which vast rainforests in ie Borneo had to be cut down forever), no destruction of local automotive industry while rest of the world couldn't care less. And Yes to many other, saner activities, of which some are done, in some places.


Indeed! Not scientifically controversial at all, but politically controversial, unfortunately.

Yes, the controversy is political because it's about controlling people. There's never a right answer to political problems because they're at the edge of deciding what the objectives should even be and how the good and bad outcomes should be distributed among people. Didn't you ever look at history and think "those silly people 100s or 1000s of years ago made a mistake and ruined everything"? Those people were no different from you - they believed their political beliefs were the right ones. There will be beliefs you hold which future historians will look at as mistakes too.

So scientists are getting a reality check. Even scientists have customers, in their case the government. In the private sector a customer can change their mind, even often for a retarded reason, and suddenly decide to stop employing your services. Turns out that happens in government to. We're all employed at the convenience and service of our customers, if they change their mind, ultimately that's their decision that can be made at any moment at which point the most practical next move (assuming the customer is unwilling to change their mind) is to either find another customer or offer a different service.

Probably a good opportunity for them to stop and reflect that they're not from a special caste or class, and gravity / global warming / all the rest effect them and the plebs all the same and that includes their exposure to the labor market. Their pleas that it is somehow special when it happens to them falls on deaf ears considering the government funded or employed scientists who have any expertise or position to comment on economics (like Milton Friedman) would preach with their loudest voice from the ivory tower that the plebs duke it out in Darwinistic free-market competition.


It is best to say that it is a religious topic. Everybody has strong opinions about it, but nobody has ever bothered to look into any details of atmosphere physics.

Everybody thinks he knows everything about the subject, but nobody ever checked anything. If people go into the details of some absorption spectrum they risk to get cancelled.

It's religion - and a strong one. With dogmas, taboos and holy authorities.


It's only a religious topic to climate change denialists.

By your rethoric, do you consider yourself as climate alarmist?

Maybe try to be honest to yourslef first and then you'll understand, why it is really just about opinions that vary. No need to labeling opposition.


So you're labelling me a climate alarmist before I have made a single statements about the climate crisis?

I have also not used any rhetoric that wasn't first introduced by the parent, so you also have no evidence of my rhetoric.

Do you see how that is a dogmatic (some might call it religious) response?

To the point: the evidence is overwhelming, and there is nothing alarmist about reacting rationally to it. Anyone denying human-caused climate change is also doing so in the face of this overwhelming evidence, so the label is rather accurate. I would happily label climate deniers with any negatively charged label you can think of: simpletons, propagandists, accelerationists, fundamentalists, reactionaries, fascists, useful idiots. Depends a little on what their role is which label sits best, but they all apply.


You’re clearly referring to something specific, what is it?

> nobody has ever bothered to look into any details of atmosphere physics.

I’m sorry but this is demonstrably wrong as the simplest search of reputable scientific journals would show.


In theory it can also be beneficial to historical cold countries like Russia and Canada.

It’s entirely possible Russia will find itself with a pacific warm water port.

Perhaps tons of tundra frost will become fertile farm land.

Of course this is at the costs of billions of climate refugees having to migrate as well as a bunch of other side effects


And these same people likely fund "reports" and "news" with misinformation to make it confusing for the average person.

As to the PH result, arguments on relativized classes can be pretty inconclusive. There's both oracles for P^A = NP^A and P^B != NP^B.

It's wild how much more expensive they are in the US compared to Europe.

Salaries

My recollection is that Hetzner own all they DC in .de, self built, land incl. however .us and .sg are standard DC colo/rack

US customers have much higher budgets (startup funding) and create much more hassle (wars, tariffs, overall humiliation) than European customers. It's a bold decision but they are apparently seeing a lot of demand and I'd say let the American customers pay for the costs they are causing. Call it symbolic "freedom fee" and they're happy about it.

> were sold at or under cost price and the markup was on the game sales?

To be honest that has always had a smell to me akin to dumping.


Differences between dumping and "loss leader"?

I'd rather compare CPS to goto than regular imperative computation.

A function call that's not artificially restricted to return to its caller is equivalent to a goto. See "Lambda: The Ultimate GOTO" by Guy Steele.

A continuation is a value that's passed to a function to tell it where to send its result when it's complete.

In imperative programming languages which invariably have restricted function calls, the continuation that every function receives is the address following the function call. This was just a mistake which the earliest programming languages committed, which has been perpetuated ever since, except in functional languages.


The continuations in CPS are closures. Goto basically isn't. GCC's computed goto is, but generally when people say 'goto' they mean the traditional C goto, which involves no closures. The goto analogy is not great for this reason.

A better analogy is that continuations are reified function call return addresses, since return addresses come with a frame pointer (explicit or implicit), and therefore are closure-like.


Does that matter that somebody else ran it for him?

When it is explicitly an appeal to authority, and the basis for the authority is incorrect? Feels like it matters.

And presumably the GP thought that saying the maintainer had access to Mythos made it a more compelling argument. Otherwise why even mention it?


Especially with how they pick (one of) the most likely word as the next one. And the most likely word is exactly the one with least entropy, the least surprising one and giving the least amount of information you can.

> A "random variable" is actually a measurable deterministic function from the set of possible outcomes of some experiment to the real numbers.

I don't think that this was the formalization that was used when the term was coined, given how late set and measure theory were formalized.


When primate family produced a super-primate intelligence it sure aligned with the good of all of them.

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