Man we are cooked.

Indeed, we are.

I used to be vehemently against this.

But now I really do think we need to reel in the youth having unfettered access to attention grabbing algorithms. I know this isn't really what this is for but it's a step.

That being said, I wish these verification services would be provided by the government (with ridged watchdogs for storage) and not by private companies.

I think the youth's parents should be reeling them in, not the government or third parties at the expense of everyone else's freedom.

The issue is that the internet is too ubiquitous. It'd be like trying to stop teenagers from smoking cigarettes when there are cigarette trees all over the place. While I agree parents need to do better, somethings become so big they are a societal problem. Simply saying "We need better parenting" unfortunately won't fix the state we're in.

Maybe I am wrong. Maybe the government should be reeling in the social media and advertising companies. But I would trust Facebook's Age verification system less than one created by the EU for example with our NFC enabled IDs.

All I know is that Mass Social Media has been poison to young people, and I don't really see a way to put that cat back in the bag.

What would you suggest? How do you "fix" parenting? Or do you not think that there is a problem at all with the interent for the youth today?

I think we're ten years beyond that point now.

Why does that make that everyone else’s problem?

What I'm hearing is "I would rather let millions of kids get victimized than allow even the remote possibility of being held accountable for what I say on the internet."

In my mind it's all of our problems that children are getting groomed and manipulated online and the downside is minimal here. Like the worst case scenario is we have to assume people know who we are when we tweet... which doesn't even sound like a downside to me.

The death of anonymity on the internet is not worth making parents feel better about not parenting their kids.

So your alternative is teaching millions of 40+ year olds how the internet works so they can implement dns blocks on their home routers? Service side age restriction seems much more effective than mandatory parenting classes.

My alternative is not falling head first into a moral panic and destroying the last vestiges of free speech we have because people don't like the idea of other people's kids using the internet.

Even if I was sympathetic to that argument, "let's just let unaccountable companies scan and store your face and sensitive biometrics that they promise they won't lose" is possibly the laziest solution that can be dreamt up and screams ulterior motives to me.

Or just use your iPhone and set up your kids iPhone as a kids iPhone and set restrictions on what apps to download. It’s really not that hard.

Conveniently you're no longer affected by the restriction you want to impose on others. How about you police your kids if you have them instead of trying to police other peoples?

Screw your mass surveillance

I was wondering the same thing. I have done a few toy projects in Zig, but found some of the docs lacking when you start to get into the weeds.

Kind of a ansilary question. Why are CEOs paid so handsomely if they dont't assume any risk for what their company does?

You wanna be in charge? You want to apply pressure that pushes for growth over quality? You're responsible.

We seem to live in a world where CEOs are considered both gurus heroically pulling their company along and blamelesz victims of the wills of the organization whenever there's a failure. They get the best of both worlds, compensated like the first and treated like the second between gigs.

It makes me so uncomfortable that the relatively informed people on HN seem to equate a human learning to AI learning.

Care to elaborate?

Glass bottles are ubiquitous as is Public drinking in Germany. They have a pfand program that gives money for recycling bottles where the bottles are literally cleaned and refilled not melted down.

So either, you return the bottles for some pocket money or you leave the bottle by a trashcan for someone (usually a homeless person) to collect all the bottles and make a few bucks for food and a shower.

It's actually a bit taboo to smash a bottle because of this.

Beautiful cyclical economy.

Saw the same in Russia 10 years ago. Not much broken glass on the streets but lots of empty bottles waiting beside walls and public infrastructures.

It's a vicious cycle. But at the end of the day it's the _company_ that has to entice workers.

The _company_ also has to stay competitive to make money.

Won't even have a product if you can't convince people to work for you. Believe it or not, its actually the workers who do most of the work.

I don't understand this line of reasoning.

If you build a product that is too expensive to be competitive, nobody is going to buy it. You will not earn money and will not be able to pay workers salaries.

What is controversial in this statement?

This is amazing! Definitely going to use this during my German study!

Exactly. Light mode for coding in the sun. Dark mode for late night hacking.

Brother, just wait til you hear they didn't even bother to render each of the individual pieces of hay that made up their beds.