PRISM was also disclosed through a whistleblower, not a FOIA request. I commend ...

JumpCrisscross · 2025-10-25T20:52:49 1761425569

> if you seriously think Apple was included in the old wiretaps but exempted from the new ones

Irrelevant to the inaccuracy of the statement “Apple is part of PRISM.” Present tense. (Emphasis mine.)

It’s important in these discussions to separate the nihilists who are convinced all is always lost from those who know what they’re talking about.

bigyabai · 2025-10-25T21:10:32 1761426632

It's a pedantic distinction with presumably zero consequences.

Which is important to identify as it separates the eternally hopeful from those who've seen this cycle before.

JumpCrisscross · 2025-10-25T21:16:13 1761426973

> It's a pedantic distinction with presumably zero consequences

You say from unfalsifiable supposition.

That’s fine. You may not be wrong. But if the only evidence is mis-citing a shuttered programme, that’s important to note, too.