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Yes, you are.

I'm not, and it's difficult to see what you think you might gain from this conversation style.


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The "but" is a denial of what preceded it.

I think you misread me there. It wasn't a denial at all.

It was simply saying: whatever the state of the mess -- weird, distorted narratives about the mess don't help us out of the mess. And in fact are a huge part of the mess.

Exactly as you put it.


> In my neighborhood

This is one of those moments I wish people had a way (I guess you could just add it in the notes) to mark their HN account with a region. Are you in the UK, maybe?

The immigration issue sounds very different in the EU vs US, even if many of the sound bites rhyme.




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