> For desktop apps, the normal thing to do these days isn't even to code them -- you drag and drop together a UI in something like Glade, Interface Builder, or whatever Visual Studio packages, and hook up handlers to talk to the core logic. It's mostly grunt work... [t]he same is true about web interfaces...

I wish it were true for web interfaces... something like balsamiq.com, but it would output html (or haml, etc.) instead of xml.